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Post by Liquid_Boss on Mar 2, 2024 19:12:50 GMT
I gave it the old two-episode test to see if it's worth getting into. This is all just based on the first two episodes. So, IDK if things change. The answer is maybe, depending on what you're into. The General NarrativeThe general thrust of it seems to be to try to make you as sad as possible and as frequently as possible by constantly reminding you of death and fading from people's memories. Does it work? It does do a good job of it, hitting sentimental notes- especially the first episode. The second seems to try to go more for the bittersweet feeling. In general, there doesn't seem to be an overarching goal aside from "hang out and be sad." I can only assume the series ends with Frieren dying and being happy. Does that make it deep? Maybe. It's hard to draw the line between tear-jerker and deep. Perhaps it's trying to compensate by being a tear-jerker. After all, something not sad, like Guts leaving Griffith ( Berserk) is a lot deeper. I think the primary issue (at this point) is that these are people that we don't know well, yet the main character does. In a way, I guess that reflects the overarching theme. The whole show feels slow, but they somehow manage to cram a boatload into every episode. That probably says more about tone. The AnimationIt is largely 3DCG, if not entirely (aside from matte paintings). However, it's some of the smoothest 3DCG I've seen. Depending on lighting, some scenes look better than others. Given that most of the action is standing and walking, they seem to have been able to give the attention needed to fluid movements. None of it feels plastic, either. With that said, some of the movement is really stiff, especially when looking at how legs move. So, it is a little more wooden. That said, this is miles and miles ahead of something like Chainsaw Man's animation. The VerdictI think, if you want an emotional SoL, this is probably a good fit for that. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 3:50:17 GMT
I gave it the old two-episode test to see if it's worth getting into. This is all just based on the first two episodes. So, IDK if things change. The answer is maybe, depending on what you're into. The General NarrativeThe general thrust of it seems to be to try to make you as sad as possible and as frequently as possible by constantly reminding you of death and fading from people's memories. Does it work? It does do a good job of it, hitting sentimental notes- especially the first episode. The second seems to try to go more for the bittersweet feeling. In general, there doesn't seem to be an overarching goal aside from "hang out and be sad." I can only assume the series ends with Frieren dying and being happy. Does that make it deep? Maybe. It's hard to draw the line between tear-jerker and deep. Perhaps it's trying to compensate by being a tear-jerker. After all, something not sad, like Guts leaving Griffith ( Berserk) is a lot deeper. I think the primary issue (at this point) is that these are people that we don't know well, yet the main character does. In a way, I guess that reflects the overarching theme. The whole show feels slow, but they somehow manage to cram a boatload into every episode. That probably says more about tone. The AnimationIt is largely 3DCG, if not entirely (aside from matte paintings). However, it's some of the smoothest 3DCG I've seen. Depending on lighting, some scenes look better than others. Given that most of the action is standing and walking, they seem to have been able to give the attention needed to fluid movements. None of it feels plastic, either. With that said, some of the movement is really stiff, especially when looking at how legs move. So, it is a little more wooden. That said, this is miles and miles ahead of something like Chainsaw Man's animation. The VerdictI think, if you want an emotional SoL, this is probably a good fit for that. Ah man, give it a third episode. You're spot on with the pacing and animation, but what you've taken away that it's "about", yeah, you've missed it. |
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Post by Liquid_Boss on Mar 3, 2024 4:25:45 GMT
I think it's probably the most depressing anime I've seen. It's pretty intense with that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 4:28:55 GMT
I think it's probably the most depressing anime I've seen. It's pretty intense with that. Really? It's a little bitter-sweet but it's not at all depressing. More, endearing really. But yeah the first two episodes I guess could be kind of depressing... although I wonder if it's the fact that you're watching it while feeling that sense of loss over what happened to all our FRENS the last couple of days. |
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Post by Liquid_Boss on Mar 3, 2024 4:35:41 GMT
I think it's probably the most depressing anime I've seen. It's pretty intense with that. Really? It's a little bitter-sweet but it's not at all depressing. More, endearing really. But yeah the first two episodes I guess could be kind of depressing... although I wonder if it's the fact that you're watching it while feeling that sense of loss over what happened to all our FRENS the last couple of days. I considered that, but not really. I think it's more that I'm more weak to stuff that's the sweet type of sad. Something about it affects me a lot deeper. So, those first couple episodes really bummed me out. |
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Post by BurntJello on Mar 3, 2024 5:07:52 GMT
I gave it the old two-episode test to see if it's worth getting into. This is all just based on the first two episodes. So, IDK if things change. The answer is maybe, depending on what you're into. The General NarrativeThe general thrust of it seems to be to try to make you as sad as possible and as frequently as possible by constantly reminding you of death and fading from people's memories. Does it work? It does do a good job of it, hitting sentimental notes- especially the first episode. The second seems to try to go more for the bittersweet feeling. In general, there doesn't seem to be an overarching goal aside from "hang out and be sad." I can only assume the series ends with Frieren dying and being happy. Does that make it deep? Maybe. It's hard to draw the line between tear-jerker and deep. Perhaps it's trying to compensate by being a tear-jerker. After all, something not sad, like Guts leaving Griffith ( Berserk) is a lot deeper. I think the primary issue (at this point) is that these are people that we don't know well, yet the main character does. In a way, I guess that reflects the overarching theme. The whole show feels slow, but they somehow manage to cram a boatload into every episode. That probably says more about tone. The AnimationIt is largely 3DCG, if not entirely (aside from matte paintings). However, it's some of the smoothest 3DCG I've seen. Depending on lighting, some scenes look better than others. Given that most of the action is standing and walking, they seem to have been able to give the attention needed to fluid movements. None of it feels plastic, either. With that said, some of the movement is really stiff, especially when looking at how legs move. So, it is a little more wooden. That said, this is miles and miles ahead of something like Chainsaw Man's animation. The VerdictI think, if you want an emotional SoL, this is probably a good fit for that. Yes, it's a bit of a slow-burn post-adventure adventure. (I mean... it is in the title) Started at 4/10 (below average) and moved it up to 6/10 (above average) after a while. (note: 3 and below is my drop zone) I think it's probably the most depressing anime I've seen. It's pretty intense with that. What?! This isn't Evangelion! |
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Post by Liquid_Boss on Mar 3, 2024 5:15:48 GMT
I didn't actually find Eva that depressing. I found it more boring.
I tell you, the first episode of Frieren brought a few tears to my eyes, and I am fairly unemotional. Only a few anime can do that. I think one scene in Triage X, one in 1969's Dororo, and maybe one more.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2024 5:25:58 GMT
I didn't actually find Eva that depressing. I found it more boring. I tell you, the first episode of Frieren brought a few tears to my eyes, and I am fairly unemotional. Only a few anime can do that. I think one scene in Triage X, one in 1969's Dororo, and maybe one more. Ah yeah. I've never been emotionally unaffected by any episode of Frieren, whether with melancholy, or absolute chills from badassery. For me, Frieren has the same feeling as watching Cowboy Bebop for the first time did. Time will tell if it lasts (since I can watch Bebop at any point and still not feel bored), but it's good enough that I eagerly await each new episode. |
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Post by Liquid_Boss on Mar 3, 2024 5:31:49 GMT
I never found Bebop to be emotional. I found it chill and maybe melancholic, but never depressing or striking. It was moody to me. It had that noir feeling to an extent.
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